One word, FREAK. No, wait, two words, DANGEROUS FREAK.
Big Dog
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Louis Farahkaan?
by gringojj inhow many people follow this guy?
he is a real wacko.
he talks about being on spaceships and stuff.
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The Dangers and Morality of Science
by Big Dog inwith all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.
now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .
"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.
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The Dangers and Morality of Science
by Big Dog inwith all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.
now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .
"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.
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I can't stand that 'hooray another earthquake' thing
by sass_my_frass ini think that motherdarling actually likes to hear about earthquakes, especially the ones that cause a lot of death.
i don't know why she's so excited about terrorist bombings and hurricanes though, they're not mentioned in matthew except for the faint out of fear thing.
i saw a website once with exact stats on eathquakes in the last few centuries and was delighted to learn that they only seem to have increased because of the increased population in areas where they occur and the more sophisticated technology detecting small shudders and movement in seabeds etc.
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Big Dog
They just want it so bad, they don't want to grow old, get sicker, die, worry about retirement, etc. They look to it as, well, as their salvation from every problem and issue in their life, perfect body, youth, seeing dead loved ones, you can see why they are looking for it in every news flash. If I believed it, I would be too.
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The Dangers and Morality of Science
by Big Dog inwith all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.
now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .
"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.
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Big Dog
Kid, but what if they do clone a person? Who are they a ward of, the state? the lab that grew them? Do they have rights like gestated humans or are they seen as something else? I just see lots of scary scenarios that have been the fodder of sci fi novels and movies playing themselves out.
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The Dangers and Morality of Science
by Big Dog inwith all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.
now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .
"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.
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The Dangers and Morality of Science
by Big Dog inwith all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.
now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .
"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.
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The Dangers and Morality of Science
by Big Dog inwith all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.
now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .
"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.
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creationism in the us of a
by googlemagoogle injust read in the newspaper that some 54% of americans favor creationism and diss darwin.
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i know, never trust a stat you haven't faked yourself, but... is creationism (especially yec) really that wide spread in the us?
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Big Dog
but, lets talk about depression and anger and ratios while we're at it. sure, no criminal is going to say i raped the lady next door because jesus told me to do it. but, where does his anger and sexulal frustration come from? and what role does an anthropocentric belief system play in such a person, if even privately OR subconsciously? i don't know, but i also see a lot of angry and depressed religious people. i wonder if the ratio of angry and depressed religious people within a religious population, is the same as the number of angry and depressed atheist people within an atheist population? i don't know. but i suppose it is determinable. i basically just created a falsifiable hypothesis that is testable.
Tetra, let's write up a grant proposal and do a study, it sure as hell beats working for living. You raise a very interesting point there about the anger and repressed emotions, etc. I would be the first to agree that a fair amount of people go off the rails due to those forces, probably the other half are just animals. Yeah, I am reading athiest websites, I don't have my head in the sand, in my ass sometimes maybe but not in the sand, i am open to checking it all out before I put my money down on the pass line. I am still working out my whole world view which like I told you before, has been on the shelf for a long time as I worked out the practical issues of my life. Now that I have those sorted out I'm working on the philosophical stuff or whatever the heck you want to call it.
(full-time school + full-time work = full-time zombie
Doogie, been there done that and it sucked, hard. But trust me, eventually it will be over, just when you are doing it that day never seems like it is going to get there. I'm sure the topic of where morals, ethics, conscience has been done before, by people better than me, so I'll just shut the frick up and go read some philosophy and anthropology books.
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creationism in the us of a
by googlemagoogle injust read in the newspaper that some 54% of americans favor creationism and diss darwin.
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i know, never trust a stat you haven't faked yourself, but... is creationism (especially yec) really that wide spread in the us?
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Big Dog
except that religion is the principle label (if even only privately) that people can latch onto to justify their immoral actions.
Tetra,
I'm going to try and get a little technical with ya . I was reading an athiest website last night and I think I fully understand that atheism is non-belief. Okay, I get that, its not a belief system its just non-belief. Okay, so all of the people that commit crimes, immoral actions that are not christians, or have no moral beliefs are still committing crimes and immoral actions, they just aren't using a belief system to justify them, they are just doing them because that's what they want to do.
I'd be willing to wager that most hardened criminals in the prisions, both here and in Canada would not say they committed their crimes because of any religious beliefs, ie.they are not going to say, I blew away the liquor store owner because I am a christian, or I raped the lady next door because Jesus commanded me to, etc.. I'd be more willing to bet if you could get inside of their heads, that they did it because they are a little closer to our animal cousins that you, me, and Doogie are.
Okay, so my point, yes, people use religion (any religion) often times to justify heinous actions, but there are plenty of people, and that number I think might out weigh the religious folks that committ crimes, well, just because. As you pointed out above and as others did, its a people thing, its not because they believe or don't believe, its because they are rotten pieces of crap. I just don't see religion as the threat you do, believers and non-believers can be really, really rotten.